REGULAR MEETING
Municipal Bldg
520 West Hill Road Glen
The 807th Regular
Meeting of the Lebanon Township Planning Board was called to order at 7:08 p.m.
by Chairman Gary MacQueen. Present
were: Mr. Weeks, Mr. Schmidt, Mr.
Gerlich, Mr. Piasecki, Mr. Piazza, Mr. Weiler, Attorney Gallina, Planner Bolan
and Engineer Risse. Excused: Mr. Rich & Ms. Bleck.
Notice of this meeting was
provided for in the “Annual Meeting Notice Schedule” adopted by this board on
January 8, 2008, mailed to the Hunterdon Review, Hunterdon County Democrat,
Express Times, Courier News, Star Ledger and posted on
the bulletin board in the
PRESENTATION OF MINUTES: February 19, 2008 Regular Meeting
Motion by Mr. Piasecki and
seconded by Mr. Piazza to approve the minutes as presented. Unanimously approved.
FYI: The new 2008 MLUL’s will be handed out at the meeting.
ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION:
a. Fire Protection
Ordinance (Fire Tanks)
Present from the Fire
Department were Warren Gabriel, member/past Fire Chief and John Kneasfsey, President
to discuss amending the Fire Protection Ordinance regarding the Fire Tanks. Mr. Kneasfsey made a presentation to the
board explaining their concerns and the changes they would like to see made to
the ordinance. On page
two of the amended ordinance in Subsection 3a
states subdivisions of 3 lots or more including remaining lands. This was discussed at length and in
conclusion everyone agreed to change it to four lots or more. Also in 3a
the standards of the NFPA should be changed to state NFPA current
standards. This way the ordinance will
not have to be amended every time the standards change. Everyone agreed. In 3b,
the board discussed the square footage of a new building or addition and the
installation of a tank. The board
discussed this issue at length with Warren and John whether to increase the
square footage regarding the installation of a tank. In conclusion everyone agreed to leave the
square footage at 1000’. Also, take out
the 75% tank capacity since it is part of the NFPA standards. In 3c John Kneasfsey stated there was
going to be an insert of a change that had happened in 2003 when the Engineer
tried to figure out some of the numbers
that was in the ordinance, he found the numbers didn’t work out right. In Subsection 3d in the amended version the sentence which starts: In the event
no curb is installed and ending with the sentence: Horizontal piping needs to
be self-draining, was added because in the original ordinance it did not state
the type of pipe on one of the original subdivision applications because they
were going to put in schedule 80 pipe and the concern of the Fire Department
was with the vibration being hooked up to a truck it would be very easy for
those connections to crack. With the
bends you have less restrictions with the water flow
and they want it to drain back to the tanks so there would be no potential of
freezing in the lines and above grade.
Mr. Kneasfsey said they also found in the original ordinance in
subsection 3b that the fittings they
had required on it they had miss spoken in the original ordinance on what they
needed to match up with their engines.
The new wording is as follows: The tank shall provide one 6” NST female
long handle swivel fitting and cap with pin spanners, fire service rated, for
drafting. The second 6” standpipe shall
be fitted with a 2 ½” by 2 ½” by 6” Siamese for filing the tanks. This will be provided by the developer.
Mr. Kneasfsey asked that
before permits are issued, the tank is to be installed and approved. Unfortunately, this has not been followed
even though it states it in the ordinance.
Everyone agreed this is very important and needs to be followed. There were no changes in 3f, 3g and 3h. Mr. Kneasfsey said it is more imperative that
the Planning Board and Township Committee know what the Fire Department is up
against because of the Highlands restricting development in the Township their
fire fighting capabilities is going to be limited because there are not going
to be any water mains that will be run thru this area and any development will
be very limited and any opportunity that we would have had to install a tank
would have been a benefit to the Fire Department.
Chairman MacQueen asked how do we handle a creeping major subdivision. Planner Bolan stated that having it state 3
lots or more including remaining lands, what it means if someone is cutting off
2 lots with remaining lands, a tank would be needed. The board discussed this issue at
length. The board went back to 3a to discuss the number of tanks since
lots have to be no less then 25 acres along with the distances between
houses. The board decided to just change
the number of lots to 4 total with the size of the
tank being 30,000 gallons not 25,000 gallons.
Also, Planner Bolan will work on the wording regarding creeping majors
and Engineer Risse will work with Warren Gabriel on the wording regarding
maintenance and preparing a standard detail of the tank fittings. Engineer Risse will work on the detail
drawings for installation. The Township
will only sign off on the installation and will not accept maintenance until a
C.O. is issued. The board also stressed the importance of
enforcement that no building permits would be issued until the tank was
installed and approved. Once Engineer
Risse and Planner Bolan have completed these amendments, the ordinance will be
placed back on the agenda for the board to review. Mr. Gabriel and Mr. Kneasfsey will also be
present for that meeting.
b. Master Plan – off
to a later date
March 18, 2008
Page 2
c. COAH letter
(finalize) –Planner Bolan
The board reviewed the final
version of the COAH letter and with a motion by Mr. Piasecki and seconded by
Mr. Schmidt to have Ms. Glashoff send the letter with a cover memo to the Township
Committee for approval for their meeting on March 19th. Unanimously approved.
d. Checklist amendment –
Engr. Risse
Engineer Risse reviewed for
the board the amendments to the Checklist.
After a brief discussion, motion by Mr. Gerlich and seconded by Mr.
Piasecki to have Ms. Glashoff forward the checklist with the amendments on to
the Township Committee for Introduction and Adoption. Unanimously approved.
PRESENTATION OF BILLS & REPORT:
a. John Gallina, Esq. $ 805.00
b. Michael Bolan, PP $1,296.60
d. Luncheon/Seminar $ 25.00
Total: $ 2,126.60
Ms. Glashoff stated that she
had additional bills from Planner Bolan that she placed on the Agenda Addendum
and the Bill Report Addendum which everyone has. Also, the bill for the Fruit Basket from
Edible Arrangements is also included.
Ms. Glashoff informed the board the new grand total of the bills is $4,811.99.
Motion by Mr. Gerlich and
seconded by Mr. Schmidt to approve the bills as amended. Unanimously approved.
CORRESPONDENCE:
a. Email from Karen Sandorse re:
Glenside Trail Drainage problem (pictures available at meeting)
(Engr. Risse will comment on this)
Engineer Risse reviewed for
the board the problems with the water over on Glenside Trail. He informed the board that he had met with
Road Supervisor Paul Jones, that they went to the site and he prepared a letter
to the Township Committee along with a follow up letter to the Township
Committee informing them that it was not the Township’s problem. Ms. Glashoff passed the pictures around to
the board members. Engineer Risse stated
that the minor subdivision which was created several years ago was not the
cause of the water problems. Also,
recently we had two days of heavy rains.
The board thanked Engineer Risse for the update.
b. NJLM re: Communities Deserve Balanced Housing
OPEN TO THE PUBLIC – no comments
Being no further business to
come before the board, nor comments from the public,
motion by Mr. Piazza and seconded by Mr. Piasecki to adjourn the meeting at
8:45 p.m. Unanimously
approved.
___________________________________________ CHAIRMAN
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GAIL W. GLASHOFF, PLANNING BOARD CLERK